are those two in the romney capped out to be part of the swing states? >> may be people on the panel would disagree. i certainly see it that way. there is no reason upon us and shouting distance and indiana. the best he's done is to be forefront points down. most of them have far larger marks. if you look at that state, the actual demographic and geographic shifts taking place within this date seemed to be making up more conservative over time thomas, which is quite a niche one state these days. even though missouri was razor thin margin, most people see that is getting much wider this year in the direction of the gop. >> people often point to a place lakeway county in north carolina is making up more liberal or democrat leaning than otherwise. the thing is people come from somewhere else. so in general, if they're coming from the northeastern united states, that could theoretically play as people go to northern virginia. that could still be true, even if it still is overwhelmingly democratic as kids become under the right circumstances. >> basically wha